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Learning together
Hello,
I'm wondering if anyone would like to join a Java learning group. I think it would help a lot, esp for self learners. Here is some of the things I'd like to do
- Help each other
- Teach each other
- Maybe make projets together
- Would like 1-15 members
I'm teaching my self using a book, in mid level Java(Can create a GUI with most components and a little experience with event handling).
If interested feel free to comment, like wise any other comments are welcome.
-Mel
Last edited by Melawe; October 11th, 2011 at 07:56 AM.
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20 views, someone must be interested. :/
Re: Learning together
You have to give it more than a couple hours. In my part of the world, people are just starting to wake up.Originally Posted by Melawe
That being said, many of your goals overlap that of this forum. Why don't you just use the forum to accomplish your goals? After all, we're here to help each other and teach people, and we have way more than 15 members- working on projects together is a slightly different animal, but I wouldn't be shocked if you found somebody willing to play around here.
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Re: Learning together
Yes it is almost the same thing. I want it to be kinda like a virtual class for people teaching them selves. It would help not to get side tracked if you know there are a few people who will scold you for doing so, and make the learning process more fun over all.
Perhaps its only me, but I think my programming skills would get a BIG boost with this. Team projects(or more simply a partner) is all I am lacking, else learning Java hasn't been better.
Last edited by Melawe; October 12th, 2011 at 12:20 AM.
Re: Learning together
Actually I came here after searching for something like that on Google (study partner). I know many programmers but I don't know anyone that is beginning programming right now.
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You can see the list of the members and some other info here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...JOdVE&hl=en_US
Re: Learning together
This seems like a good place to bring up my delimma. When I say I'm a beginner, I am not exaggerating. My problem is that no matter how long I google, and how much of the information I find says it's for newbies, I feel like I'm in college math without having learned how to add or subtract yet. There is SO much information out there, and I spend hours wading through it, but I can't seem to narrow it down to step one. I've taught myself everything I know how to do on a computer, so I'm not looking to be spoon-fed, but can anyone point me in the right direction (the equivalent of programming preschool
Re: Learning together
I'd recommend you post this in its own thread. But since we're here, where exactly are you stuck? Do you have a Hello World program working?This seems like a good place to bring up my delimma. When I say I'm a beginner, I am not exaggerating. My problem is that no matter how long I google, and how much of the information I find says it's for newbies, I feel like I'm in college math without having learned how to add or subtract yet. There is SO much information out there, and I spend hours wading through it, but I can't seem to narrow it down to step one. I've taught myself everything I know how to do on a computer, so I'm not looking to be spoon-fed, but can anyone point me in the right direction (the equivalent of programming preschool
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Re: Learning together
I would be happy to post it in another thread, if you think I need to after this; I don't want to hijack a thread.
Where exactly am I stuck? Well...I taught myself very basic html skills, and I can make a simplistic web page. I can use a wysiwyg. (I realize those are not programming skills, but they're what made me want to learn more.) I know that programming is the skill of using a specific language to tell a computer what functions you want it to perform and I know that you have to have programs to convert instructions to that language (like Eclipse).
I am completing an hp learning center course on basic programming skills. I have downloaded Java and Eclipse, but quite frankly I had a hard time with that, even though I rarely have a hard time downloading anything and I have NO CLUE what to do with it now that I have it. I know what a "hello world" program is, but I haven't yet figured out how to make one.
I'm not exactly sure how to articulate where I'm stuck except to say that I have a feeling that I skipped some steps somewhere, like there's something I need to know before I can actually create a program; whether it's a program somewhere that I need to download and learn to use - maybe Eclipse is for people who already know what they're doing?, or do I need to know more about html - or what. I posted in this thread hoping that someone else who was new to this would remember trying to figure these things out, and tell me what I'm missing, or at least how to find out. Thank you in advance, (and to the OP - thanks and sorry for hijacking your thread) for any information you have.
Re: Learning together
I'm actually in a similar boat, believe it or not. Okay, maybe a slightly different boat- I'm trying to make the transition from basic Java programming to server side stuff, and a lot of the "this must be so stupid that there isn't even a tutorial on it" stuff has me pretty frustrated. So I understand your pain.
Anyway, at your stage in the game, I'd ditch Eclipse. Eclipse is great for helping advanced users be more efficient, but it hides a lot of topics that beginners absolutely need to know. Get a basic text editor instead (I used notepad for the first year I programmed, but maybe something like JEdit would be better for you), and do all your compiling and running through the command prompt. That way you can understand what's going on under the hood without having to set up a new eclipse project for every little program you want to write.
I'd start by following the directions here: "Hello World!" for Microsoft Windows (The Java™ Tutorials > Getting Started > The "Hello World!" Application)
If you have more questions, I'd say post it in your own thread, with links between this one and the new one, so people know where to look to help you.
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wanderinon (October 22nd, 2011)
Re: Learning together
Thank you so much!! You have no idea how relieved I am to have this information! I knew there was something I was missing and you described it perfectly. I'll hold off on starting a new thread until I have some specific questions to ask, and post them in the correct place. And good luck with what you're learning too.
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Here is a great website for learning java
Chortle
That's how I started
wanderinon (October 26th, 2011)
Re: Learning together
Thanks Tjstretch, I'm checking that one out too.
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Tjstretch,
I just finished the first Chortle Lesson. It is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Between this, and the Java Tutorial KevinWorkman gave me, I feel like I have a solid foundation, and a place from which to start. Thank you both so much.
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Hey, why are you hijacking my post? Haha I'm joking. ;D I using Sams Teach Yourself Java in 24 hours to learn Java programming, here is a link to an older version of the book InformIT: Sams Teach Yourself Java 2 in 24 Hours . Its for Java 2, I'm not sure if its to old to be good, but the sixth edition is great. You can find other books here: Free Online Computer Science and Programming Books, Textbooks, and Lecture Notes :: FreeTechBooks.com Free Programming and Computer Science Books Free Computer, Programming, Mathematics, Technical Books, Lecture Notes and Tutorials .
And would you Wanderinon and Tjstreach be interested in joining my learning/programming group? I have just finished making the forum for us and we have over 10 members of different levels now.
-Mel
Re: Learning together
Hey! I am too. you still up for another partner?
Re: Learning together
okay you are on the list, i will send you a pm once I finish organizing some things
Re: Learning together
I would love to, but I have to warn you - I hijack posts!! Mua ha ha! Seriously tho, if you don't mind that I am probably going to drive everyone crazy by asking a million questions, I'm in.
Re: Learning together
Don't hijack.
Re: Learning together
Hello everyone,
The group has quite a few members so I will not accept any new members till further notice. This group is going to be like a virtual class for people teaching them selves, and a place to use what the member(self taught or other wise) has learnt so far and also learn more by coding. For that to work I can’t have 400 members in this group.
As said before I might accept more members but till then I need to take care of the current members.
-Mel
Re: Learning together
I just wanna say that if we are going to make a group i am really interested!
I am a begginer but i solve problems by testing!!
Also as a first group project can someone help me with this!!!
http://www.javaprogrammingforums.com...word-code.html
Thanks!!!!!!!!!
Re: Learning together
The Forum is now Live!
Note: this is a study group I don't intend and will not deal with more than 20 members.
-Mel
Last edited by Melawe; October 31st, 2011 at 09:09 AM.
Re: Learning together
So you are using this forum to administrate a competing site? The owner of this site is a super nice guy, but doesn't that seem a bit dicey? You could have used this existing forum for all your communication, which would give you the benefits of not making people register in two different places (web users are notoriously lazy) and getting input from more experienced non-members.The Forum is now Live!
-Mel
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Re: Learning together
The forum is only for offline communications. Please remember this is a study group I'm making, I don't intend to steal any forums members nor do I plan or know how to teach more than 25 people. Especially this forum, this is the only forum that I used while learning Java and many JPF members have helped me; if the link offends the owner of this forum I'd be glad to remove it.
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