Thread: QUESTION: I'm a beginner> Will <eclipse> help me to learn Java SE > ?

I am a beginner at programming.

QUESTION: Will <eclipse> help me to learn Java SE > ?

It looks as if learning <eclipse> will be much harder than learning Java SE, but
what is your opinion ?

Thanks for trying to help this beginner.

martymartin

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Some believe that, as you've suggested, learning two things at once, Eclipse and Java, increases the time to become proficient at either compared to another that had focused exclusively on learning just one. I don't agree with that in the long run. Eclipse, Netbeans, and the rest are tools, darn good ones, that are relatively intuitive and easy to pick up. Frankly, if one's progress at learning Java is hindered by the tool, then maybe another area of study would be more appropriate.

What one loses by learning Java exclusively inside such tools is a deeper understanding of the structure of a program in the OS's environment, the use of the most basic tools, javac, java, and jar, and the requirements for deployment of an application across different client environments. To overcome those deficiencies, bust out of the tool occasionally. Learn a skill in a tool, then force yourself to do the same thing at the command line.

In the long run, I believe the tool will help you learn Java, but you need to extrapolate the Java you learn in the tool to the same proficiency and understanding outside the tool. It's not hard to do.

Good luck on your journey, whichever path you choose.

Good book will help you.
Eclipse is just a tool. If you do not know what to do with a tool its useless.

If you do not know what to do with a tool its useless.

Hopefully not "useless." To a thinking human being, every tool should have some basic intuitive utility: use a hammer to smash things :: use Eclipse as a source code editor. The degree of utility a user is able to intuitively realize during a tool's first use may determine whether the user continues to use and learn that tool or abandon it for another.