Which IDE would you guys recommend and why? And would you tell a begginer to use the IDE used in the book or other IDE?
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Which IDE would you guys recommend and why? And would you tell a begginer to use the IDE used in the book or other IDE?
Which book are you referring to?
I would strongly recommend eclipse It's very powerful, and the learning curve is fairly shallow (so long as you ignore the advance features, which you can do).
Even if it's not the IDE used in the book, you should be able to get along fine as long as you skip over the "introduction" or "first program" sections. These sections usually discuss how to setup the IDE and run some basic functions (or worse, tell you how to compile and run from command-line).
Eclipse website: Eclipse - Downloads
Just get the second one (Eclipse for Java developers). To install eclipse, all you have to do is extract it anywhere you want and run the exe found inside.
Here's a helpful website on getting started with eclipse:
Getting started with Eclipse (there are 3 parts)
Last edited by helloworld922; April 2nd, 2010 at 02:25 PM.
I might catch heat for saying this but if you are truly just starting out, I would recommend using the command line. You really learn some nitty gritty details that way, and compiling a few simple classes are sometimes even easier (at least for me) using the command line. As your programs grow into more serious applications and packages, an IDE will become a lot more handy. In these cases I would recommend Eclipse. Its a fantastic concept and probably one of the better pieces of software you will find - and its free!
I wasn't referring to any book but the one I am using is Sam's Java in 24 Hours. I already downloaded Eclipse yesterday , but I found it much harder to use than NetBeans. And cmd, I found it fun! I will get back to it as soon as I know a little more of how to use it!
Thanks!!
-Melawe
Last edited by Melawe; April 3rd, 2010 at 05:37 AM.
To each his own
From what I've heard about NetBeans, it's just as good as Eclipse, but I've never actually did any extensive use with it. Command-line is a useful skill to have, too (I know people who still love to use emacs and compile everything by command-line).
Just find a method that you like best (at least try a few different ways, which it looks like you have) and stick with it.
Yea I tried Eclipse for an online Java course that got me in using the JFrame before it told my anything about cmd programs or Hello world. :/
Went better than it should lol, Sams Java in 24 hours is way better though!
I'd suggest NetBeans. It takes a bit of time to get used to, but not much, it has a built-in GUI Builder (plugin), optional support for PHP and C/C++, compiles straight to a JAR, and has support for other JDKs like EE and ME, including support for Glassfish and easy server deployment. It also runs Java web programs like Servlets and JSPs. All in all, it's a lot more in-depth than Eclipse. Eclipse gives you the tools you need to run programs, then lets you do your own thing. NetBeans does that, then is willing to step in and help you out when you need it. Oh, I almost forgot, it also has tools for a lot of services, including MySQL and JDBC databases, so long as you have a MySQL program (such as MS SQL Server or an AMP package).
My only problem with NetBeans is there where viruses with the last few updates. Didn't you get them?
I'm guessing that the viruses came from somewhere else. Netbeans is distributed by a highly reliable source (Oracle/Sun Java), and doesn't come with any viruses.
Get a good anti virus program and run a full scan (I'm not by any means an expert in finding and removing viruses). Make sure you get a reliable one! There are tons of fake anti virus programs that will cause more harm than good.
Here's a list of some good comercial anti-virus programs:
Top Ten Reviews: Anti Virus Software
Here's a list of free anti-virus software that's for the most part reputable (i.e. they try to do good, their effectiveness varies)
1. Microsoft Security Essentials
2. The three listed Here
edit: and of course, get NetBeans from a reliable source: Netbeans.org
Thats the site I got Netbeans from. And I use Kaspersky Internet Security 2010. Netbeans was the last download/update I had in weeks.
First of all i don't trust any virus scanner from windows.But most of the virus scanner came be bypass and windows is a virus heaven.
So that why i use linux
Thinking in java is a very good book to read.
True, although most anti viruses aren't much better than them. Many times it's Malwarebytes spoting 6-10 and Kaspersky 1-4 or 5. Bit Defender was the best anti virus I used.
I hear Netbeans is pretty good. For the last 3 years, I have been using JCreator, which is good.
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I also wrote an Eclipse tutorial - http://www.javaprogrammingforums.com...-new-post.html
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