Will Java suit my project ?

**templok** · November 29th, 2012, 08:22 PM

Hi all,

About me : I'm a beginner, I have some basis in C++, some in Java, I have some object-oriented notions, and eventually random knowledge with php/html, msl, or even ahk, etc.

I'd like to realize a project. It should be simple, but I need to know if Java is the most suitable for that, or if I could consider a better/easier solution as I'm a beginner.

The idea :
A 'simple' program displaying a window with different timers. Eventually with colored progress bars. Each timers will have a button "Start timer now", and I could check/uncheck timers so they don't appear on the window. Pretty fun stuffs.

It looks reasonably doable, but I'm almost nowhere with graphic interfaces. I used Netbeans a few times, and I'm not exactly sure their graphics tools will let me make something optimal and as I wish. (Plus, I didn't like that I couldn't modify/move some of the generated code)

So, where would you start if you had to do that ? I'm sure "Java can do that", but I don't feel like I have a start-point, unless I stick to those Netbeans tools.. which are maybe perfect but I'm not convinced atm.
So, what are your thoughts ? Also if you have any tutorial link related to my project, that'd be super great!

Thanks

**Mr.777** · November 30th, 2012, 06:41 AM

Plus, I didn't like that I couldn't modify/move some of the generated code

You can move.

Instead of being dependent on the IDE's, why don't you have a look at Swing Tutorials?
Trail: Creating a GUI With JFC/Swing (The Java™ Tutorials)

**templok** · December 1st, 2012, 07:59 AM

Oh okay, I see better what a Swing is now (I would've called it a Window) :-P .
I'll have a go with these tutorials and my project started, will be back to you if I'm stuck

By the way, 2 quick questions : can I do the following with Swings ?
1) Get rid of the Minimize/Maximize/Close bar to implement these 'inside' the window, and gain space ?
2) Make that window always active, so it doesn't get covered by other windows ?
Ty

**helloworld922** · December 1st, 2012, 03:35 PM

1. Yes, make your windows Frameless

2. Yes, setAlwaysOnTop(boolean)

**Mr.777** · December 3rd, 2012, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by helloworld922

1. Yes, make your windows Frameless

2. Yes, setAlwaysOnTop(boolean)

Setting always on top will only keep the windows on top of your application, not all of the applications running at particular time.

**helloworld922** · December 3rd, 2012, 07:02 AM

Setting always on top will only keep the windows on top of your application, not all of the applications running at particular time.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this, setAlwaysOnTop will put the window above all other windows not marked as always on top, including windows from other applications. There is undefined behavior if multiple windows open are marked to be always on top. Some systems don't support setAlwaysOnTop, check using isAlwaysOnTopSupported.

**Mr.777** · December 3rd, 2012, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by helloworld922

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this, setAlwaysOnTop will put the window above all other windows not marked as always on top, including windows from other applications. There is undefined behavior if multiple windows open are marked to be always on top. Some systems don't support setAlwaysOnTop, check using isAlwaysOnTopSupported.

By this I mean, this will only keep the window on top of all those windows which are part of the application, not all other windows related to other applications.

--- Update ---

Originally Posted by helloworld922

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this, setAlwaysOnTop will put the window above all other windows not marked as always on top, including windows from other applications. There is undefined behavior if multiple windows open are marked to be always on top. Some systems don't support setAlwaysOnTop, check using isAlwaysOnTopSupported.

By this I mean, this will only keep the window on top of all those windows which are part of the application, not all other windows related to other applications.

**helloworld922** · December 3rd, 2012, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.777

By this I mean, this will only keep the window on top of all those windows which are part of the application, not all other windows related to other applications.

That's not the behavior I noticed on my computer, and shouldn't be the intended behavior. I'm using Windows 7 and Java 7.

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